Antenna add on,s

[Fly]

I just received a new potensic Atom 3axes drone. I really like it, & like it is not a Wi-Fi controller. i had a Ruko pro before
this one, & as most know it was a wi -fi controlled. I live in a heavy wooded area, & lost that drone. Long story, but is short
the forest broke up my signal. This unit is not Wi-Fi & I hope that will help some. But have any here used on of those parabolic
antenna ad on, to help with the trees breaking up signal? I have not tried it over the woods as yet. Still kind of gun shy. But
do any here have any expeiernce with these potensic atom controllers with these antenna add ons. I know these are 2.4 ghz
units.

Fly

 

[Fly]

This board does not get much traffic, & that is a surprise to me. It
is a very nice lay out site. I know there are so many drone owners out there that must have questions as I do. I just do
not under stand. I,m a member of so many forms of different
interest I have, but none are as slow as this form???? Fly

 

[phph001]

I just received a new potensic Atom 3axes drone. I really like it, & like it is not a Wi-Fi controller. i had a Ruko pro before
this one, & as most know it was a wi -fi controlled. I live in a heavy wooded area, & lost that drone. Long story, but is short
the forest broke up my signal. This unit is not Wi-Fi & I hope that will help some. But have any here used on of those parabolic
antenna ad on, to help with the trees breaking up signal? I have not tried it over the woods as yet. Still kind of gun shy. But
do any here have any expeiernce with these potensic atom controllers with these antenna add ons. I know these are 2.4 ghz
units.

Fly

Slight confusion here. Both the Ruko and the Potensic remotes function in the same way, using the 2.4 GHz band to send the control signals to the drone. The camera images and other information are sent back, using the 5GHz band to a wi-fi unit within the transmitter (a little router) which connects with your phone. No control signals go to the drone via the wi-fi channel.

To the second question of the parabolic reflector, I would be very sceptical. The whole point of a parabolic reflector is to create a narrow transmission pattern, effectively increasing the signal strength at the receiver end. This makes it more critical than ever to point the transmitter towards the drone as the signal strength will drop off sharply if you don't.

 

[Fly]

Thank you for your reply But the new Potensic Atom is not Wifi
& on this model, as does the Atom SE. There is much confusion
on the net on these drones. I contacted the importer of Potensic they assured me the main control was not Wi Fi. I
connect my phone to my controller with serpate wire exsactly
as DJI mini 2 . They use the 2.4ghz . From what I have been told
also instead of 5 ghz.

 

[phph001]

Thank you for your reply But the new Potensic Atom is not Wifi
& on this model, as does the Atom SE. There is much confusion
on the net on these drones. I contacted the importer of Potensic they assured me the main control was not Wi Fi. I
connect my phone to my controller with serpate wire exsactly
as DJI mini 2 . They use the 2.4ghz . From what I have been told
also instead of 5 ghz.

That is exactly what I was telling you. Both the Potensic and your previous drone (and, incidentally, virtually every other serious drone) use 2.4GHz transmitters. You could, if you felt so inclined, pair your previous transmitter with your current drone.

In the same way, virtually every camera drone sends picture information and some drone information back on a different channel, namely in the 5GHz band. This comes back to a receiver box within the transmitter. That receiver box functions exactly like a router, which is why your drone app requires you to change your network.

Every camera drone beaming a picture to a phone is effectively on a wi-fi network (its own).

 

[Fly]

This is what I found on this drone I posted below. I,m just learner ing about this stuff, so I,m not trying to say your not correct, I,m not. I,m just posting this as to what was posted to the same question from another poster.

Fly

 

[Fly]

Here is a YouTube video of a guy reviewing the Atom se, mine is
the up graded Atom 3 axes camera with 4 k. Mine is basically
the same drone but longer range 6 k. But in his review he said
it has no WI-FI and said it plugs into the phone ect, ect. Hey
I no very little about this tec stuff, I just posted this to let you
listen to what he said.

.

Fly

 

[phph001]

My apologies. The Atom does indeed connect to a mobile via a wired link rather than wi-fi, and it appears to use a proprietary protocol on the 2.4 GHz band for the return transmission. Hopefully that will work for you

 

[Fly]

Well I truly understand you thinking that. i only knew that after
hours of research videos & so on. Being I m new to this it has
been confusing to say the least. With DJI being the world leader
most everything is based around there products. I was a 100 %
going to order a mini 2 se, but some how found this Atom.

I thank you my friend for trying to help me on this.

Fly

 

[droney007]

This is what I found on this drone I posted below. I,m just learner ing about this stuff, so I,m not trying to say your not correct, I,m not. I,m just posting this as to what was posted to the same question from another poster.

Fly

So, if the controller is NOT Using Wi-fi to talk/connect to the drone, how is the connection being made??

 

[droney007]

Here is a YouTube video of a guy reviewing the Atom se, mine is
the up graded Atom 3 axes camera with 4 k. Mine is basically
the same drone but longer range 6 k. But in his review he said
it has no WI-FI and said it plugs into the phone ect, ect. Hey
I no very little about this tec stuff, I just posted this to let you
listen to what he said.

.

Fly

Ok, You are flying the new and improved "Atom 2". Does not make sense there is no Wi-Fi connection from the controller to the drone.....How is the controller talking to the drone, with no wi-fi? I asked this question of Microsofts Copilot AI, and received this response....
Question: Does the Potensic Atom 2 use a wi-fi connection?
Response: "Yes, the Potensic Atom 2 uses a Wi-Fi connection for video transmission and to connect with the Potensic Eve app on your mobile device. This allows you to control the drone and view live video feeds directly from your phone."

 

[CRA]

The Atom 2 talks to the controller via a radio signal. No drone talks to the controller via WiFi. The Atom 2 controller talks to the cell phone or tablet via the cable connectiing the phone or tablet to the controller. Wifi has nothing to do with any of the communication protocols. Rather, WiFi is used to download photos and videos from the drones MicroSD Card. This is useful if you don't want to remove the MicroSD card from the drone. Cheap Holy Stone drones use WiFi for communication between the cell phone and controller. But some of Holy Stones newer drone now use a cable between the cell phone and the controller. To summarize, in the Atom 2, WiFi has nothing to do with communication between the drone and the controller, and nothing to do with communication between the cell phone/table and the controller.

I don't know why user manuals don't dedicate a paragraph to this subject. It can be very confusing to a novice.

 

[phph001]

The Atom 2 talks to the controller via a radio signal. No drone talks to the controller via WiFi. The Atom 2 controller talks to the cell phone or tablet via the cable connectiing the phone or tablet to the controller. Wifi has nothing to do with any of the communication protocols. Rather, WiFi is used to download photos and videos from the drones MicroSD Card. This is useful if you don't want to remove the MicroSD card from the drone. Cheap Holy Stone drones use WiFi for communication between the cell phone and controller. But some of Holy Stones newer drone now use a cable between the cell phone and the controller. To summarize, in the Atom 2, WiFi has nothing to do with communication between the drone and the controller, and nothing to do with communication between the cell phone/table and the controller.

I don't know why user manuals don't dedicate a paragraph to this subject. It can be very confusing to a novice.

Just to get your terminology straight: wi-fi IS a communications protocol, defining how data of various kinds, including but not limited to audio and video, may be transmitted wirelessly from one device to another. Some drones do use wi-fi to communicate data back to the transmitter, which contains a router module for that purpose.

 

[CRA]

Just to get your terminology straight: wi-fi IS a communications protocol, defining how data of various kinds, including but not limited to audio and video, may be transmitted wirelessly from one device to another. Some drones do use wi-fi to communicate data back to the transmitter, which contains a router module for that purpose.

The IEEE WiFi 802.11 family is not a protocol used for drone flight control or video transmission because it is limited to about 1500 feet (aH will go to about 1700 ft). Since this is an Atom 2 discussion, I was trying to point out the Atom 2 does not use WiFi for flight control. Most, if not all, recreational drones use RF for flight control, as does the Atom 2. Yes, some recreational drones like DJI use a proprietary communication protocol (Ocusync), but that is a different discussion.

To the best of my knowledge, the Atom 2 uses RF for flight control and to transmit video back to the controller.

 

[phph001]

You are making generalised statements based on your knowledge of 1 brand, which are not universally true.

"The IEEE WiFi 802.11 family is not a protocol used for drone flight control or video transmission". Actually Holy Stone drones, in particular the 720R, DO use wifi to communicate video.

As far as flight control is concerned, virtually all radio-controlled models use RF. However there are a number of different RF protocols and not every transmitter will operate every model. (There are a few small RC models which use infrared transmissions.)

 

[CRA]

You are making generalised statements based on your knowledge of 1 brand, which are not universally true.

"The IEEE WiFi 802.11 family is not a protocol used for drone flight control or video transmission". Actually Holy Stone drones, in particular the 720R, DO use wifi to communicate video.

As far as flight control is concerned, virtually all radio-controlled models use RF. However there are a number of different RF protocols and not every transmitter will operate every model. (There are a few small RC models which use infrared transmissions.)

Please explain to the audience how WiFi is used to transmit video from a drone that is flying several thousand feet from the controller when WiFi has about a 1500 foot transmission limit (and that is at 2.4GHz). That makes no sense. It has to use RF.

Also, until recently, Holy Stone drones use WiFi to pass camera video from the controller to the WiFi connected cell phone running whatever version of Holy Stone flight application is required for any particular Holy Stone drone. Later model Holy Stone drones are now using a cable to connect the cell phone to the controller, eliminating the need for WiFi connection between the cell phone and the controller. In my opinion, a dedicated cable interface is a much simpler and robust interface than a WiFi connection.

As for your example about the HS720, here are the details..... Yes, Wifi is used in the Holy Stone HS720 and virtually all 700 series Holy Stone drones. But it is used for communication between the flight app on the cell phone and the controller. For example, the Ophelia application running on the cell phone receives and displays camera video from the WiFi connected controller. The controller receives camera video from the drone vis RF. The Ophelia application also sends user selected commands (like Return to Home) to the WiFi connected controller. In turn, the controller send the Ophelia generated command via RF to the drone. This is a simple layman's summary and there is a lot more going on here behind the scene in the firmware.

The Atom 2 and many other drones uses a cable between the cell phone and the controller. This eliminates the need for a WiFi connection between the controller and the cell phone. WiFi plays no part in direct communication with the Atom 2. Again, this is via RF..... Not WiFi.

Yes, the Atom 2 drone has embedded WiFi. But it is used for features like SmartTransfer to download video directly to your phone. That is a good use of WiFi.